KDK Fans:
Some details:
a) Everjoint in Ang Mo Kio (so far the cheapest I get)
b) Euromark (http://www.euromark.com.sg/)
c) Tai Yong Electric, 116 Jalan Besar
d) Parisilk (http://www.parisilk.com/)
e) Kim Seah Electric, 635 Veerasamy Road #01-164
f) Hong Kwang Electric, blk 30 Kelantan Lane
g) Lim Kim Thye Electric, 157 Jalan Basar
h) Mega discount, B1 Katong Mall
For HDB, only 3 models are allowed due to ceiling height constraint:- A11YS, V56VK and V60WK
(Have to verify with contractor)
Take note that the U-hook and screws are not provided in the box, need to buy separately either from installer or from the shop (though not all shops sell it). Please check with KDK the correct diameter of the hook before buying, as different shops sell different sizes (nearly got tricked by one of the shops). Capital Distributors sell the U-hook and screws at $15 after GST. Installers normally sell it at $10 and Tai Yong sells it at $5.
The warranty of the ceiling fan is 1yr. For the remote control, the replacement costs $40 from Capital Distributor.
1) Models
Z60WS - $370
A11YS - $170
Bought from Tai Yong
2)Got KDK AY11S from Kong Tai (at jurong west) for $160
Wednesday, April 28, 2010
Tuesday, April 27, 2010
Monday, April 26, 2010
Something to bear in Mind k
Openet Installation: Ours would be in June- Aug 2010
Some advice from reno talk:
Price for false ceiling should be $2.50-$3.00 psf
L-Box: $6.50-$8.00 psf
Cove light-$8-$10 psf
Good pricing L-box:http://kowyee.blogspot.com
Some advice from reno talk:
Price for false ceiling should be $2.50-$3.00 psf
L-Box: $6.50-$8.00 psf
Cove light-$8-$10 psf
Good pricing L-box:http://kowyee.blogspot.com
Sick!!
I have not taken a MC for the last 17 weeks!broke my clean record *sob sob* and due to the same thing-UTI! this june, i plan to schedule a check up, its getting more and more frequent and on top of that, the usual remedies no longer work.
And im also nursing a cold and a cough and I wonder where that came from.
While in between my trips to the toilet,blowing my nose, throwing the used tissue papers- i found these:
1) I love wall stickers
(I thought it would be interesting-we got get some for your sister to paste it at her house to let your QI QI look at it)
2) Can design our own feature wall first: Inspace (quite fun)
3) Somebody's blog: Take note of the prices of curtains
Things to take note of when renovating
Study Room
The study table corners must be rounded- some contractors leave it sharp.
(My bedroom table quite good)
Look at this platform.
Main Gate
Pang Giap Wrought Iron Gates- Not included in our quotation with Orange Cube
With Pang Giap: One set is $480 and above
CNS Metal Design & Construction: Apparently cheaper-$300 (not sure if include installation)
And im also nursing a cold and a cough and I wonder where that came from.
While in between my trips to the toilet,blowing my nose, throwing the used tissue papers- i found these:
1) I love wall stickers
(I thought it would be interesting-we got get some for your sister to paste it at her house to let your QI QI look at it)
2) Can design our own feature wall first: Inspace (quite fun)
3) Somebody's blog: Take note of the prices of curtains
Things to take note of when renovating
Study Room
The study table corners must be rounded- some contractors leave it sharp.
(My bedroom table quite good)
Look at this platform.
Main Gate
Pang Giap Wrought Iron Gates- Not included in our quotation with Orange Cube
With Pang Giap: One set is $480 and above
CNS Metal Design & Construction: Apparently cheaper-$300 (not sure if include installation)
Tuesday, April 20, 2010
Hidden Costs
Found a list compiled by some forumer.. might be useful.. heheh
Hidden Cost List Update
-----------------------
1. Charge for each additional electrical power point
*** Take note each additional electrical power point in the market nowadays is between $60-$70. Pls be ensure 2 way switch installation only costs $40 for lighting and pls ensure that the contractor has indicated everything clearly. This is what I have checked up before agreeing my electrician to go ahead with the work. My electrician did a good job and the price is reasonable.
*** Take note also each installation of new lighting point is between $30-$40, some contractor may quoted more than $50 per point. Also pls do not ask the contractor to disconnect the power point when it has been done, as this also incurred costs and losses.
2. Cost of aircon wiring, re-wiring
*** The cost of aircon wiring and rewiring is always inclusive together with the air con equipment depends on the model you buy. For instance, a standard LG model costs around $1600 with installation. Pls do not be happy with the free gift the contractor provided together with the air con as the free gift is also one of the hidden costs in it. Nothing is free, pls bear in mind.
3. Quotation at time of signing does not included detailed specs of all materials used eg. acceptable price range for floor tiles given budget
**** You must always ask your contractor to state everything as clear as possible. The dimension as well as the type of floor tiles given. This is important. My contractor did that for us and all are quote accordingly.
4. Cost of clearing of debris and haulage
**** As per conversation with HDB council, the standard cost for clearing of debris and haulage is always at the cost of $215 inclusive of GST. Do not be surprised when contractor quote you more than $500 and do not get convinced by them when they told you the reason why it is so expensive. Some contractor will tends to tell you that they have rented a lorry to collect debris, this is not true. The lorry is provided by HDB who will do the clearing up. The contractor only needs to pay them $215 and everything will be done properly. Reason: HDB pay outsiders to do the clearing and this is liaise with the contractor and the HDB third party, when only a single receipt will be given.
HDB bay contractors will tends to quote more in their hauluge fees, pls take note.
5. Renovation permit costs
*** Renovation permit costs is always provided free when the contractor apply to HDB. There is no costs at all. You may check with HDB itself. Last time HDB used to charge around $200 for permit fees but not now. Policy has changed.
6. Cost of chemical wash
*** Pls take note chemical wash also can be called acid wash is between the cost of $95-$150. This done once or twice depends between contractor and owner. This only done after painting and flooring has completed and before the completion of kitchen cabinet.
7. Remember to check all water hole for any cement or sand. Some contractors may just throw the cement onto the pipe, which in the long run will cause leakage. This is important.
8. Cost of gas piping.
The contractor will liaise with City gas contractor for work to be done and this only incurred the cost of $70 per trip. As for the connection of gas piping to the cooker hood will be done separately on another day. The billing of gas piping will be send to your house by the PUB people and not the contractor .
9. Cost of painting.
The cost of painting is between $1100 - $1600. It normally consists of 5 colors Nippon and colors can be selected and adjustable.
Type and brand of paint, no. of coats and no. of colors. ** Shall always make them state clearly what brand, how many coats, how many colour u are choose etc
10. Installation of bathroom accessories & electrical point.
*** This can be negotiable. You can discuss with the contractor to install these items free of charge at your house. When the contractors said they will bring you to the shop to buy bathroom items, do not agree and follow them. This is another way of hidden costs appearing, as contractors may earn commission from there. Take note. The same goes with the lighting points and bulb. Get these items yourself and ask the contractor to install for you.
For bathroom accessories and lighting, you may go to Jalan Besar or Geylang area to get it. Balestier can be considered but not all. Some places in Balestier tends to quote higher.
11. Low price for kitchen cabinets can mean no frills like stainless steel dish racks etc.
12. When hacking walls, make sure contractors include touching up with tiles i.e. on the area that is being left exposed by the wall that is being hacked off.... otherwise some will charge u separately for those tiles.
13. If you are installing instant heater or ceiling fan, contractor will charge you around $60 each. But can be negotiated and get it FOC.
HDB only collect debris fees on behalf of the town council cost won't be more than $250. you can get the print out copy by HDB from your contractor .
The haulage and buying of sand from the appointed contractor ( you can find their contact pasted at the lift lobby for new flats )should be paid by the contractor or the ID firm engaged .
Some contractor or so call " ID " firm will say the haulage fees is home owner should pay ( bout $ 800 or more )Don get CON . all these should be quote inside the contract under the tiling works .
Resale flats Town concil don't charge haulage fees as there is no more haulage contractor appointed by HDB station there .
Hidden Cost List Update
-----------------------
1. Charge for each additional electrical power point
*** Take note each additional electrical power point in the market nowadays is between $60-$70. Pls be ensure 2 way switch installation only costs $40 for lighting and pls ensure that the contractor has indicated everything clearly. This is what I have checked up before agreeing my electrician to go ahead with the work. My electrician did a good job and the price is reasonable.
*** Take note also each installation of new lighting point is between $30-$40, some contractor may quoted more than $50 per point. Also pls do not ask the contractor to disconnect the power point when it has been done, as this also incurred costs and losses.
2. Cost of aircon wiring, re-wiring
*** The cost of aircon wiring and rewiring is always inclusive together with the air con equipment depends on the model you buy. For instance, a standard LG model costs around $1600 with installation. Pls do not be happy with the free gift the contractor provided together with the air con as the free gift is also one of the hidden costs in it. Nothing is free, pls bear in mind.
3. Quotation at time of signing does not included detailed specs of all materials used eg. acceptable price range for floor tiles given budget
**** You must always ask your contractor to state everything as clear as possible. The dimension as well as the type of floor tiles given. This is important. My contractor did that for us and all are quote accordingly.
4. Cost of clearing of debris and haulage
**** As per conversation with HDB council, the standard cost for clearing of debris and haulage is always at the cost of $215 inclusive of GST. Do not be surprised when contractor quote you more than $500 and do not get convinced by them when they told you the reason why it is so expensive. Some contractor will tends to tell you that they have rented a lorry to collect debris, this is not true. The lorry is provided by HDB who will do the clearing up. The contractor only needs to pay them $215 and everything will be done properly. Reason: HDB pay outsiders to do the clearing and this is liaise with the contractor and the HDB third party, when only a single receipt will be given.
HDB bay contractors will tends to quote more in their hauluge fees, pls take note.
5. Renovation permit costs
*** Renovation permit costs is always provided free when the contractor apply to HDB. There is no costs at all. You may check with HDB itself. Last time HDB used to charge around $200 for permit fees but not now. Policy has changed.
6. Cost of chemical wash
*** Pls take note chemical wash also can be called acid wash is between the cost of $95-$150. This done once or twice depends between contractor and owner. This only done after painting and flooring has completed and before the completion of kitchen cabinet.
7. Remember to check all water hole for any cement or sand. Some contractors may just throw the cement onto the pipe, which in the long run will cause leakage. This is important.
8. Cost of gas piping.
The contractor will liaise with City gas contractor for work to be done and this only incurred the cost of $70 per trip. As for the connection of gas piping to the cooker hood will be done separately on another day. The billing of gas piping will be send to your house by the PUB people and not the contractor .
9. Cost of painting.
The cost of painting is between $1100 - $1600. It normally consists of 5 colors Nippon and colors can be selected and adjustable.
Type and brand of paint, no. of coats and no. of colors. ** Shall always make them state clearly what brand, how many coats, how many colour u are choose etc
10. Installation of bathroom accessories & electrical point.
*** This can be negotiable. You can discuss with the contractor to install these items free of charge at your house. When the contractors said they will bring you to the shop to buy bathroom items, do not agree and follow them. This is another way of hidden costs appearing, as contractors may earn commission from there. Take note. The same goes with the lighting points and bulb. Get these items yourself and ask the contractor to install for you.
For bathroom accessories and lighting, you may go to Jalan Besar or Geylang area to get it. Balestier can be considered but not all. Some places in Balestier tends to quote higher.
11. Low price for kitchen cabinets can mean no frills like stainless steel dish racks etc.
12. When hacking walls, make sure contractors include touching up with tiles i.e. on the area that is being left exposed by the wall that is being hacked off.... otherwise some will charge u separately for those tiles.
13. If you are installing instant heater or ceiling fan, contractor will charge you around $60 each. But can be negotiated and get it FOC.
HDB only collect debris fees on behalf of the town council cost won't be more than $250. you can get the print out copy by HDB from your contractor .
The haulage and buying of sand from the appointed contractor ( you can find their contact pasted at the lift lobby for new flats )should be paid by the contractor or the ID firm engaged .
Some contractor or so call " ID " firm will say the haulage fees is home owner should pay ( bout $ 800 or more )Don get CON . all these should be quote inside the contract under the tiling works .
Resale flats Town concil don't charge haulage fees as there is no more haulage contractor appointed by HDB station there .
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